Elon Musk cashes in $6.9 billion of Tesla stock, just in case

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MrDweezil

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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

"Not wanting him to run" isn't the same as "won't vote for him".
 
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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Let's hope like hell that yesterday's news of the FBI search portends criminal prosecution as soon as possible.
 
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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Let's hope like hell that yesterday's news of the FBI search portends criminal prosecution as soon as possible.
Which one, Mara Lago, or in NY?
 
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Bongle

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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.
Everyone thought it was a sure Hillary win in 2016.
Trump came within 60k votes of winning in 2020.
He's competing against democrats, the pre-eminent losers of winnable elections.
Dems will be running either someone new, or a not-particularly-charismatic 82-year-old who has been presiding over mostly bad news for 2 years so far.

Trump will hopefully be old news (or R's with ambition will beat him in primaries), but it could happen. Or you might get DeSantis, who is Trump but with the actual capabilities of running government.
 
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Sasparilla

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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

I really hope your right, but his votes for 2020 were the 2nd highest number in history (behind Biden's), even after that terrible stuff he did, throw in a lackluster or down for whatever reason Democratic candidate and I have no faith he doesn't get it (or cheat via the states - notice all those deniers for AG slots in purple states recently selected - to have it thrown into the House where the GOP would cinch it).
 
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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

When Trump ran the first time, my exact thought was" Trump will never get elected."
 
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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Let's hope like hell that yesterday's news of the FBI search portends criminal prosecution as soon as possible.
Which one, Mara Lago, or in NY?

I know of the Mango-Lardo one, but what was the NY one?
 
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IncorrigibleTroll

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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Let's hope like hell that yesterday's news of the FBI search portends criminal prosecution as soon as possible.
Which one, Mara Lago, or in NY?

I know of the Mango-Lardo one, but what was the NY one?

There's the ongoing investigation in New York about whether he committed tax or bank fraud with inconsistent valuations of his assets.
 
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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Let's hope like hell that yesterday's news of the FBI search portends criminal prosecution as soon as possible.

There are not many things one can receive the federal death penalty for in America. It's pretty well limited to treason (levying actual war is the standard), espionage (depends on the documents, this could be damning if he took foreign money and passed anything they can prove), and a handful of other cases like murdering a court officer or a witness (ordinary murder doesn't even rise to the level of the federal death penalty that I'm aware of).

If he's executed as a foreign agent, he can't run for President.
 
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Maxipad

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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

"Not wanting him to run" isn't the same as "won't vote for him".

He lost by 7 million votes last time. He'd lose by more next time, if he isn't already in jail.

He may simply be disqualified from ever running if he gets convicted of removing classified documents which is what the Mar a Lago raid yesterday was about. It's an easy conviction and disqualifies him from ever holding office again.

Plus his teasing about a possible run is just a way to grift more money from his cult.
 
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Shlazzargh

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Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

Being president is nothing more than a Get Out Of Jail Free card to him.

I think that would have been true before he was elected. However, now that he has had a taste of 4+ years of the hero worship that he craves, I think he is far, far more terrified of falling back into obscurity than any threats of jail. The only person who matters in Trump's universe is Trump himself so he will do anything to stay the center of attention and in a place where folks are forced to pay close attention to him and he is always in the news.

So this next election is going to be the mother of all shitstorms with Trump and his cult followers doing anything they can to get him back into office for at least one more term. I'm not sure that he is going to even be willing to step down if he won another term. 2 term limit be damned.
 
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Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

Being president is nothing more than a Get Out Of Jail Free card to him.

Which, of course, is a very strong, even desperate, motivation.

If you think that Trump was desperate to not leave office, think about how desperate he'll be to get back in office with this looming behind him.

And he did desperately rally all his available resources to stay in office, as January 6 showed us. If this desperate sociopath runs in 2024, he could provoke another violent insurrection.
 
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Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

Being president is nothing more than a Get Out Of Jail Free card to him.

I think that would have been true before he was elected. However, now that he has had a taste of 4+ years of the hero worship that he craves, I think he is far, far more terrified of falling back into obscurity than any threats of jail. The only person who matters in Trump's universe is Trump himself so he will do anything to stay the center of attention and in a place where folks are forced to pay close attention to him and he is always in the news.

So this next election is going to be the mother of all shitstorms with Trump and his cult followers doing anything they can to get him back into office for at least one more term. I'm not sure that he is going to even be willing to step down if he won another term. 2 term limit be damned.

And if he did win a second term he won't have the one major check that constrained him last time. The need to get re elected. All of his actions to subvert the government to his will after he lost in November are just a preview of what he would do to dismember our governing institutions and norms if he managed to become president again
 
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Bongle

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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

"Not wanting him to run" isn't the same as "won't vote for him".

He lost by 7 million votes last time. He'd lose by more next time, if he isn't already in jail.
The US obviously doesn't run on a popular vote system, and with many states getting infested with "stop the steal" election officials in this midterm cycle, the couple-thousand votes he actually needed in close states in 2020 might "be found" in 2024.

I'm with you on hoping. But the guy won in 2016 when nobody expected him to, and came terrifyingly close in the rematch. "Trump could never win" is the kind of complacency that led to his win in 2016.
 
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Maxipad

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It does make me wonder what Musk would do with near $16B in liquid assets if he doesn't have to buy Twitter. His money has done a lot for the electric car market, space travel, and satellite Internet, and he doesn't seem to be the type to sit idle.

He's already said he'll buy Tesla stock if he doesn't have to buy Twitter. He has options to buy loads of Tesla stock at bargain prices as part of his compensation package.
 
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CraigJ ✅

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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

"Not wanting him to run" isn't the same as "won't vote for him".

If he wins we will probably get the answer to the question "what happens when you elect a felon currently serving a 20 year sentence in prison to the highest office in the land?"
 
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IncorrigibleTroll

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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Trump will never get elected again. Even half of all R's polled don't want to run him now. His "campaign" is just another cynical grift.

"Not wanting him to run" isn't the same as "won't vote for him".

He lost by 7 million votes last time. He'd lose by more next time, if he isn't already in jail.

He may simply be disqualified from ever running if he gets convicted of removing classified documents which is what the Mar a Lago raid yesterday was about. It's an easy conviction and disqualifies him from ever holding office again.

Plus his teasing about a possible run is just a way to grift more money from his cult.

Unfortunately, a good chunk of those 7 million votes are meaningless courtesy of the electoral college (which, incidentally, was intended to prevent woefully incompetent but popular demagogues from taking power. that worked out well.).
 
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While the agreement was made - I really don't want Elon owning Twitter and The Donald getting his megaphone back in time for 2024. If he's elected again (or cheats to reverse another loss), its over for democracy in the U.S..

Let's hope like hell that yesterday's news of the FBI search portends criminal prosecution as soon as possible.


Not being able to run isn’t the same thing as not wanting to run
 
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